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I just want to say that I`m glad I found this article. I will be a law student at the Widener Commonwealth in the fall, and until about two days ago I couldn`t decide whether I was going to Rutgers or Widener. I wanted to go to Rutgers because he has a better ranking and reputation than Widener. The costs for both schools were the same (maybe a few hundred) – so it was difficult to base my decision on cost alone. I posted my problem on TLS, but these comments weren`t helpful at all. In the end, I chose Widener after talking to my brother, who is also a lawyer, and I kept telling myself exactly what you said above. He came from Penn State Dickinson, has contacts in the Harrisburg area, and has already put me in touch with a paid internship. I think I could also move to another school after 1L – maybe Dickinson. My LSAT just wasn`t good enough to start with, even with a GPA of 3.8.
Follow my advice, if you can`t go to another school, take the LSAT. I know it is, but do it. You`ll pay a high price for what can only be called a literal piece of. Thank you Jordan. I will be participating in Widener this fall (unless I am coming to Drexel). All my friends who are lawyers say exactly what you said about law school and hiring. Thanks again! Hello, I am 20 years old and I am in my last year of university. I took the LSAT once and got a 152 and my GPA is 3.0. I only sent my law applications a few weeks ago, although I started the applications last October, due to problems with my university`s transcript publishing service. I`m trying to decide whether I should go to Widener Law School this fall, go to Drexel Law School, or take the LSAT again, which might allow me to get into Temple Law School or Northeastern Law School. I strongly disagree about what to do because I`m the only person I know who went to law school, I`m my professor, and everyone I talk to gives me different advice.
Basically, I read your article and I wonder if you think it`s still true in 2016? What interests me most is international law and human rights or acting as a public defender. I don`t intend to make much money, but I don`t know how deterred I could be deterred from going to school. I also worry about taking a year of school in hopes of getting into a better school. However, I keep hearing that it is impossible for lawyers to find a job and that the longer I wait, the harder it is to go to law school, and I am very concerned. I have two weeks before I have to make a decision and pay my deposit, and I`m very, very worried. Please, I know it`s a long hike, but if you have any tips, I`d be very happy if you could share them. The most important thing, however, is undoubtedly the lack of morality. No one wants to be there.
I didn`t want to be there and everyone is constantly shitting at school. People make comments like, “Well, we`re going to expand the space, so don`t expect much.” These comments come in all the time and it`s exhausting after a while. There is no sense of pride because school is a garbage fire. There are no sporting events or such fun things. Even if you walk around, almost no one is there. It`s always wet and dark, it`s depressing. On the wall hang frameless posters that line the rooms, which roll up and fall on the edges. All the furniture is about 3,000 years old and stinks.
My first piece of advice should have been when I walked into room 118 and there is only garbage everywhere before you came in who were sitting there all year round. Also, no one goes to conferences. There will be about 4 professors and 6 students because nobody cares. Attending a 4-grade school is not a wise decision, but now going to law school is risky. There are too many lawyers and not enough jobs. Our society does not need more lawyers. There`s also no real reason to spend three years in school with over a hundred thousand dollars in student loan debt just to get a job that pays $35,000. I earned more as an administrative assistant! Good luck to everyone in their job search.
You`ll need all the help you can get. Which campus did you visit? Have you been to Harrisburg or Delaware? My first year at Widener DE Law School was one of the best years of my life. Not sure about Harrisburg. Widener University Commonwealth Law School was founded in 1989 as the Harrisburg Campus of Widener University. It became an independent law school in 2015. It is the only law school in Pennsylvania`s capital that offers him unique internship opportunities. The Law & Government Institute is the school`s flagship program and is dedicated to law research that defines the structure and functioning of government, as well as the relationship between individuals and government. The school emphasizes experiential learning – an approach that leads to practical graduates.
The Harrisburg Civil Clinic, which has been in existence since 1991, offers students the opportunity to represent impoverished clients in family, administrative and bankruptcy matters. The school also offers several opportunities for students to support pro bono lawyers with hands-on support without credit score that pays for the experience. Programs like Wills For Heroes and Volunteer Lawyers for the Arts expose them to client relationships and a variety of small business legal needs, intellectual property and estate planning. The school is distinguished by the bar exam. His class of 2015 recorded a success rate of 95.12% in the first four attempts. It exceeds its expected success rate based on incoming LSAT results by 10%. It also improved its placement rate from 61.5% in 2011 to 72.95% in 2017, which is one of the biggest improvements nationwide. Widener University Commonwealth Law School is a leading law school for environmental law. Hi Jordan, then I just came across your article while looking for information about Widener! I know you posted this years ago, but I was hoping you could help me with a few questions. I recently came to Widener on a scholarship, but I`m still not sure what I want to do.
I really want to be in Philadelphia but I was rejected by Drexel and Temple, I was wondering if you could give me some tips on how to transfer after your first year. I`m really torn at the thought of going to Widener. and I would probably transfer to a school in Philadelphia (preferably Temple) or a school in New Jersey (Rutgers or Seton Hall). Are the requirements of temple transfer difficult? My other option was to take a gap year, repeat my LSAT and hope to get into a better school. Do you have any advice? Everything would help!! Jordan, thank you very much for the article. Very informative. My daughter is thinking about going to the law schools you mentioned. I am just wondering what other job opportunities a juris doctor will attract if he does not end up being a lawyer? In other words, is it worth having a Juris doctor if you don`t become a lawyer? You also mentioned that there is no urgency to make a decision. If she takes a gap year, how will she spend this year? Would it hurt her chances of getting approval if she took a gap year? If she is admitted now, would that guarantee that she will be readmitted to the same school when she re-applies next year? Hi Jordan. I was recently accepted into the Widener TAP program, where I will take law courses and hopefully work well to be accepted to law school in the fall. I chose this route mainly because I didn`t do well on the standardized test and didn`t want to retake the LSAT. In my state of mind, you just have to jump in, overtake to be able to enter.
I want to go to the temple. Can you give me a glimpse of how you felt at Widener about changing schools? Were you at the top of your class? And what advice can you give me to prepare for the transfer (connections, recommendations, notes, etc.). The reason this report is called the “2020” report is that our 2020 Law School Ranking Report and 2020 Law School Profiles are of considerable interest to potential law school applicants who wish to enroll in courses starting in fall 2020. At the time of publication of this report in spring 2019, these employment statistics reflected the most recent data available. Delaware Law ranks #60 in terms of tuition fees among full-time law students ($50,616). We rank out of a total of 283 tuition fees from 194 law schools and rank twice as many law schools that have different tuition fees inside and outside the state. I read this article before visiting Widener for my 1L last year and it comforted me. I told myself that school is what we make of it, and that somehow I would make it work.
That being said. 2. It doesn`t matter where you study law, unless you want to be a U.S. Supreme Court justice or a Biglaw partner (which still isn`t that important). It`s pretty much “Ivy League and everywhere else.” Plus, clients don`t care what U.S. News and World Report thinks about your law degree, and most of us real lawyers don`t either.
